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Optimized Entrepreneur with Jeremy Hanson is an entrepreneurship podcast for small business owners and service business owners who refuse to sacrifice marriage, family, health, or peace of mind just to grow a company. Your business should create an incredible life—not steal it. Hosted by Jeremy Hanson, a 30-year entrepreneur who built his life through service businesses, stayed married, and raised 13 awesome kids. This is real-world business advice from someone who has made payroll and still chose to be a husband and a father. Tuesdays are Unleashed Entrepreneur: small business strategy for service businesses—operations, systems, customers, leadership, and growth. Thursdays cover the side most business podcasts skip: marriage, parenting, work-life balance, anxiety, identity, and how to build a company that serves your life instead of controlling it. Learn how to grow a profitable small business, stay married while you scale, raise strong awesome kids, lead under pressure, manage entrepreneur anxiety, and create systems that give you freedom—not more stress. No hype. No influencer tactics. Just proven strategies for business owners who want ownership of their income and their life. New episodes every Tuesday and Thursday. Get the Built Different newsletter and more at optimized1.com and jeremyhanson.pro. entrepreneurship podcast, small business podcast, service business, business owner, leadership, marriage, parenting, work life balance, entrepreneur mindset, blue collar entrepreneurship
July 21, 2026

The Jeremy Hanson podcast "Why I Do The Jeremy Hanson Podcast"

The Jeremy Hanson podcast "Why I Do The Jeremy Hanson Podcast"

The Jeremy Hanson Podcast / Optimized Entrepreneur

Most business podcasts teach you how to build a bigger company. This one is trying to teach you how to build a better life. In this episode, Jeremy Hanson steps out from behind the frameworks and case studies to explain exactly why The Jeremy Hanson Podcast exists, what it will always be, and what it will never be.

Jeremy became a father at sixteen. He didn't start businesses because he read a book about entrepreneurship or because someone told him to be his own boss. He started them because there was no other option — nobody hires a sixteen-year-old for enough money to raise a child, so he had to build the math himself. Pressure washing in Missouri summers. Cleaning crews. Food trucks. Broadcasting and voice work. Today, exterior cleaning and restoration through Shimmer Services. None of those businesses got applause, and none of them were ever the goal.

This episode makes the case that business is a tool and nothing more. Money is a tool. Employees are not trophies. Marketing, sales, systems, software, and AI are all tools, and every one of them exists to produce five things: freedom, time, choices, security, and opportunity. When a business starts consuming those five instead of producing them, the numbers can still go up while the life underneath quietly comes apart — and the numbers will never warn you.

Jeremy also lays out what failure actually teaches, which is not tactics but the true price of every trade you made, and the more surprising lesson that success teaches the exact same thing. He explains why nobody was teaching entrepreneurship from this angle — everyone was talking about scaling, exits, venture capital, hustle, and Lamborghinis, and almost nobody was talking about building a marriage, raising children who want to be around you, health, peace, and purpose.

The episode closes with the Best Life Formula: five questions that replace revenue, headcount, and follower counts as the real scoreboard. Do your kids want to spend time with you? Does your spouse enjoy being around you? Can you sleep at night? Are you proud of who you've become? And does your business serve your life, or has your life become a servant to your business?

This is the mission statement episode. Thirty years of scars, stated plainly, with no highlight reel.

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QUESTIONS THIS EPISODE ANSWERS

Listeners often want to know why a working entrepreneur with multiple businesses and a full family life spends this much time making a podcast, and this episode answers that directly. Jeremy explains that when he was twenty-two years old and drowning, nobody was saying the thing he needed to hear, and he waited a long time for someone with a bigger platform to say it before deciding to say it himself.

People also ask whether entrepreneurship is really about money, and this episode argues that it never was. A business is a truck you drive somewhere in, not a destination, and the culture around entrepreneurship has spent the last decade worshiping the truck. The intended destination is a life — a stable one, a safe one, one where the people who depend on you can stop bracing for impact.

Another common question is how to tell whether a business has stopped working even when it looks successful. The answer offered here is diagnostic rather than financial. Ask whether the business is producing freedom, time, choices, security, and opportunity, or consuming them. A business can consume all five while the revenue climbs, which is precisely why revenue is a poor early warning system.

Listeners frequently ask what failure teaches. Jeremy's position is that failure does not primarily teach tactics. It teaches you what you were willing to trade and whether you would make that trade again — and the receipt is almost never just money. It is the missed dinner, the lost weekend, the night you were physically present and mentally somewhere else entirely.

Finally, people ask what they can expect from this show. Four promises: Jeremy will never pretend he hasn't failed, will never teach theory he hasn't lived, will never claim entrepreneurship is easy, and will always show what thirty years of scars have actually taught him.


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ABOUT THE SHOW

The Jeremy Hanson Podcast is a business and life show for people who actually run things. Hosted by Jeremy Hanson — a thirty-year entrepreneur, founder of Fuzzy Life Entertainment and Fuzzy Life Studios, and owner of Shimmer Services — the show trades theory for lived experience. Jeremy became a father at sixteen and built service businesses because there was no other option, and that origin shapes everything about how he teaches. No venture capital. No exits. No highlight reel. Just what thirty years of building, failing, and rebuilding actually taught him, delivered straight, with the assumption that your business is supposed to build your life rather than consume it.

New episodes publish regularly. Everything lives at jeremyhanson.pro, and the Built Different newsletter delivers the same thinking to your inbox.

CREDITS

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Q: Why does Jeremy Hanson do The Jeremy Hanson Podcast? Answer: Because nobody was saying the thing he needed to hear when he was twenty-two and drowning. He waited years for someone with a bigger platform to teach entrepreneurship as a means of building a life rather than a bigger company, and when nobody did, he decided to say it himself.

Q: What is the core thesis of the episode? Answer: Most business podcasts teach people how to build bigger companies. This one teaches people how to build a better life. Business is a tool, never the goal.

Q: What happened to Jeremy Hanson at sixteen? Answer: He became a father. That ended his adolescence almost immediately and forced him into entrepreneurship, because nobody was going to hire a sixteen-year-old for enough money to raise a child.

Q: What businesses has Jeremy Hanson run? Answer: Pressure washing, cleaning crews, food trucks, syndicated broadcasting, professional voice work, and today exterior cleaning and restoration through Shimmer Services, alongside Fuzzy Life Entertainment and Fuzzy Life Studios.

Q: What does Jeremy say business is actually for? Answer: Producing five outputs — freedom, time, choices, security, and opportunity. Money, employees, marketing, sales, systems, and AI are all tools that exist to generate those five things.

Q: What does failure actually teach an entrepreneur? Answer: Not tactics, but cost. Failure teaches you what you were willing to trade and whether you would make that trade again, and the receipt is rarely just money.

Q: Why does Jeremy say success taught him the same lesson as failure? Answer: Because the threshold where the pressure comes off does not exist. If a business is the only thing holding up your identity, no level of performance fixes that — you simply build a bigger and more expensive version of the same anxiety.

Q: What is the Best Life Formula? Answer: Five questions that replace the fake scoreboard of revenue, headcount, and followers. Do your kids want to spend time with you? Does your spouse enjoy being around you? Can you sleep at night? Are you proud of who you've become? Does your business serve your life, or has your life become a servant to your business?

Q: What are the four promises Jeremy makes to listeners? Answer: He will never pretend he hasn't failed, never teach theory he hasn't lived, never claim entrepreneurship is easy, and always show what thirty years of scars have taught him.

Q: Does Jeremy think everyone should start a business? Answer: No. He says some people should get very good at their job, save aggressively, study how their boss operates, and start in three years from strength rather than desperation. He started from desperation, and he does not recommend it.

Q: Who sponsors this episode? Answer: Storyblocks, the 100% human-made stock media library. Listeners get 15% off any annual plan at storyblocks.com/HANSON.

Q: Where can listeners find more from Jeremy Hanson? Answer: At jeremyhanson.pro, and through the Built Different newsletter.

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Welcome to the Jeremy Hansen Podcast. This episode the Why

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of what I do Now. If your business is making

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you richer while it destroys your marriage, I've got some really,

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really bad news for you. You've already failed, so you

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just haven't gotten the invoice yet. If your business gives

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you more money but less time with your kids, you

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haven't won anything. You lost, And the truth is you

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paid the full price for the privilege of losing. If

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you become a millionaire and you wake up every single

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morning completely miserable, sick to your stomach, dreading the day

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in front of you, well, then I have an honest

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you didn't build a life. A life doesn't feel like that,

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success from the outside, especially in the beginning, and that's

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what this episode is about. That's what this entire show

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is about. And after all of these years and all

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of these episodes and all of these conversations, I think

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it's time I told you exactly why I do this. Welcome, Welcome.

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To the Jeremy Hansome.

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Good Cash.

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So let's get back at it. This is the Jeremy

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Hanson Podcast. I'm Jeremy Hanson. Today's episode is a little

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bit different than the normal episode. You know, there's no

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framework that I'm walking you through today. There's no five

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and then what you can expect from me every single

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time that you press play. Yeah, I've had a lot

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I have pressure washed houses in the middle of Missouri

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summer where the air is so thick that you're basically

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the cleaning crew. You get a very specific kind of

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you have to be happy and pleasant about it because

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space the size of a hallway that every single one

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my own, and today my family and I. We run

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taught me most about what a business actually is. Okay,

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that nobody gave those businesses applause. Nobody wrote an article

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about a guy pressure washing a house. Nobody did. Nobody

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put a food truck on a magazine cover. You know,

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there was no announcement, there was no round, there was

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those businesses were never the goal, not one of them,

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a tool that I picked to build something else. And

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the something else was a life, A stable life, a

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safe life, one where the people who depend on me

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could stop bracing for the next crash. And that's it,

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my destination. The business was the truck that I drove

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in there, And somewhere in this culture we've gotten that

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completely completely backwards. See, we started worshiping the business, and

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we started worshiping that truck. So what failure actually teaches you? Hey,

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you've heard a lot about me building things, but I'm

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going to tell you. I've also broken things. I have failed,

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and I say that in the plural, repeatedly, in ways

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it cost me real money. I didn't have the time

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that I couldn't get back. See.

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I've launched things that nobody wanted.

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I was tired and I was desperate and I was

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trying to get the problem to go away. I've kept

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people too long because I just couldn't stomach the conversation.

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I've been the guy that price worked so low that

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I essentially paid a customer for the privilege of ruining

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my Saturday. I've had months where the revenue looked great

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on paper and I still was having a hard time

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making payroll because revenue and cash are two completely different things.

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And I learned that the hard way at night with

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a calculator. Okay, and here's what I've learned about failure.

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And it took me a lot of years to be

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able to say this and to say it clean. Failure

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doesn't teach you what you think it teaches you. Most

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people think failure teaches you tactics. You know, don't price

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that way, don't hire that guy, don't sign that lease.

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Then sure it maybe teaches some of that. That's the

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surface layer anyways, but the real lesson underneath is about

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what you were willing to trade and whether you'd make

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that trade again. See, every failure that I've had came

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with a receipt, and the receipt was never just money.

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It was a weekend that I didn't get. It was

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a dinner that I missed. It was a night somewhere

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I was supposed to be physically at a table and

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I wasn't really there. See at night doing math in

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my head. Will my kids sitting there telling me a

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story and I didn't even hear a single word of it.

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You See, that's the real cost. And nobody that I

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know has ever put that on a balance sheet. So

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when I failed, the question that I eventually learned to

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ask wasn't well, what went wrong with whatever strategy I

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was implementing. The question was what did that cost the

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people that I loved the most and wasn't worth it?

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And a lot of times, most of the time the

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answer was simply no. Now let me say the other half,

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because I think people expect the failure speech and then

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they check out. So success and most people don't think

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about it this way either. But success taught me the

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exact same lesson, and I guess that's the part that

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surprised me. You See, I just assumed that success would

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feel like a rival. I assumed that there'd be some

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threshold where the pressure just came off, where the not

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in my stomach untied itself, you know, where I just

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look around and go, Okay, we're good now. But what

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I've learned is that idea, that doorway, that threshold, it

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does not exist. See I've hit numbers now that I

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would have considered impossible at twenty five years old, and

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I felt almost nothing, maybe a day, maybe an hour,

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maybe an afternoon, And then the number moved. The number

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always moves, and the truth was I was right back

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in it.

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If your business is the.

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Only thing holding up your sense of who you are,

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then it doesn't matter how well it does. See, there's

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no amount of good that fixes that, because you'll just

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build a bigger, more expensive, more sophisticated version of the

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same anxiety, the same problem structure. Failure taught me what

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things actually cost. Success taught me that the thing I

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was buying was never going to be worth what I

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was paying for it. You see, building a company was

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never my goal. Building a life was my goal. It

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took me about eighteen twenty years and a whole lot

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of scar tissue to be able to say that sentence

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out loud without like flinching. So I'm going to say

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the thing that nobody will say out loud. Somewhere along

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the way, somewhere along this journey, I started paying attention

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to what was actually being taught out there. I started

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listening to shows and you know, radio and podcasts, and

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reading books and watching videos YouTube, sitting in rooms with people,

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and I realized something that really did, honestly bother me.

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Nobody was teaching entrepreneurship from this angle, from what I'm

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talking about, through real life entrepreneurism and marriage and kids

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and all this thing. Almost nobody. Everything that I was

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listening to was about scaling. Everybody was talking about exit

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strategies and you know at the venture capital and you

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know what it could do to raise your valuations and

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what you could do to make things multiply. And everybody

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was talking about hustle and sleep when you're dead and

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rise and grind and just out work. Everybody. Everybody was

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talking about the cars, or their watch, or the new

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house they got.

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Everybody had a Ferrari or.

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A Lamborghini, and the thumbnail with the guy leaning against

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it and his arms crossed telling you that you're just

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not a good enough worker, You're just not hungry enough.

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And listen, I'm not here to be bitter about anybody

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else's success. If a man wants a Lamborghini, well God

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bless him, go get the Lamborghini. I'm not moralizing about cars.

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What bothered me was what was missing the reality of

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what was missing. I guess almost nobody was talking about

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how to build a marriage that survives the first five

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years of a business. Remember I'm on marriage number two.

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Thank goodness, it's going great. It's you know, quarter century,

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twenty five years.

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But I learned a lesson hard way.

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See.

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Almost nobody that.

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I was listening to, and I was trying to listen to,

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everybody was talking about how to raise kids who actually

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want to be around you when they're twenty five years

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old and don't have to be. Almost nobody was talking

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about health. And I'm talking about real health, the kind

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of health where you can carry a grand kit up

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a flight of stairs at sixty years old and not

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even think about it. Nobody was talking about peace, about

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the ability to just sit there without reaching for your phone,

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because for some reason, silence feels like a threat today.

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Nobody was talking about that. Almost nobody was talking about purpose,

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about why any of this is happening in the first place.

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And I kept waiting and listening for somebody with more

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credibility than me to say, Okay, yeah, this is it.

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You see. I figured somebody smarter is going to handle this,

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Somebody with a bigger platform will say the quiet part

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out loud. And I waited, and I waited, and I waited.

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I waited a long time. You see. Eventually it occurred

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to me that maybe the reason nobody was saying it

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was that's saying it doesn't sell. Okay, that's just the reason.

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Build a company that lets you be at dinner with

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your family. Okay, that's a lot harder pitched than Hey,

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I'm going to ten times your revenue in ninety days. Okay,

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I get it, and I understand it, the economics of attention, boila.

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But I've got thirty years in this thing now.

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I've got a marriage, I've got kids, I've got grandkids,

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I've got businesses still standing, still running.

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And I also have a lot of scars.

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And emotional scars and physical scars from the years that

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I did things the other way. So I looked at

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my myself and said that nobody else is going to

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do this, that I'm going to do it. And that's

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exactly why the Jeremy Hanson podcast and Optimized Entrepreneur exists.

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It's exactly why.

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Now with that, let me take a quick break because

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this episode is about tools, and I want to tell

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you about one that I actually use. Story Blocks is

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a stock media library built for creators. Footage, music, sound effects, templates, images,

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millions of assets and they're all professionally curated, all pre licensed,

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all ready to drop into monetized work under one subscription.

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And there is something that made me pay attention. Every

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single asset in that library is made by a human being,

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a professional filmmaker, a working artist. It's never ai generated, okay,

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And this is in a year where everybody's flooding the

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internet with machine made Everything that mattered to me more

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than I expected it to. Now, let me tell you

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how it actually shows up in my week. See, we

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were in a full production house here, Fuzzy Life Studios

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puts out multiple shows, okay, the video versions, the clips,

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the trailers, the social cuts, and on the narrative side,

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on the cinematic stuff. I need music beds and sound

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effects that carry a scene without stepping on the story.

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Okay. That used to eat my life.

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I'd burn the entire evening hunting for one piece of

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music that didn't sound like a corporate training video from

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the early two thousands. Story Blocks literally killed that problem.

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Unlimited downloads under one subscription means I stop rationing, I

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stop second guessing whether a clip is worth pulling. I

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grab four different options, and I test all four. I

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keep the ones that work. Now, that's completely different way

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to build. The templates are the other piece. Thousands of customizable,

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pre made templates for the different editing platforms that we

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already run. So an intro that use to take a

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day now takes an hour. And the story Blocks plug

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in lets you search and download right inside Okay, premiere

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pro after effects, which means to me that nobody on

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my team is bouncing between six browser tabs mid edit.

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That's awesome. Members save an average of three and a

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half hours a week. Okay, and I truly do believe

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that number because I've lived it. I've been using stuff

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like this for years. It's awesome to have an extra

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three and a half four hours a week. More than

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one hundred and fifty thousand creators and businesses use story

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Blocks as part of their workflow, and every download you

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make directly supports a real working artist.

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Okay, that's not a small thing to me.

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I've been the guy that nobody was paying attention to,

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that was just doing the work. Anyways, So head to

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storyblocks dot com slash hansen to access the human made

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stock media library that's essential to my workflow. For a

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limited time, they're offering fifteen percent off any annual plan

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and that discount is only available through my link. Again,

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that's storyblocks dot com slash Hanson for fifteen percent off

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annual plans. Storyblocks dot com slash Hanson for fifteen percent

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off annual plans. Now, business is just a tool, Okay,

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Let's let's get into the part that I think will

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actually change how some of you think and operate your

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daily lives. You see business as a tool, and that's it.

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That's the whole reframe that you need to wrap your

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mind around. I know it sounds small, but I want

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you to walk it out because I don't think most

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people actually believe it. They'll not at it and shake

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their head for you, but they won't really live it.

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Here's another one. Money. Money is a tool.

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Okay. Money isn't some sort of score word, and it's

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definitely not a personality. It's simply a lever and it

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simply moves things. That's the only thing that it does. Okay.

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A hammer doesn't mean anything either until somebody picks it

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up and decides.

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What they want to build. Employees are not trophies.

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I hear guys say all the time that I've got

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forty employees and the way that another man would say

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I've got a boat. Okay, forty employees is not an accomplishment.

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Forty employees is forty families betting their mortgage on your judgment.

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I don't look at that like a trophy.

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You see.

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That's a responsibility that should make you a little bit

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nervous every time you owe them on payday. See marketing

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another thing. It's a tool. It's not magic, it's not evil.

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It's just how a stranger finds out that you exist,

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and they decide whether they should trust you sales, same thing.

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It's just a tool.

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Sales isn't manipulation, you see.

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Sales done right, is just clarity delivered with enough confidence

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that somebody can make a decision.

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You know, systems, systems are tools. Software is a tool,

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your CRM.

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Is a tool, and AI is a tool.

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I know.

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That's the loud conversation right now. Either everyone's terrified of

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it or convinced it's going to hand them the fortune

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and the future.

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It's a tool.

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It's very fast, it's a very capable tool, and it

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will do exactly what the hammer does, which is amplify

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whatever the person holding it already intended. So here's a

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test that I use on myself. Pick any tool in

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your business and ask what it's for, not what it does,

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but what it's for. Your CRM does contact management, So

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what it's for is you stop lying awake, wondering who

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you forgot to call back. And that's the actual product.

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Piece of mind is a product. The software is just

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how you get that piece of mind. So run that

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test on everything and it gets clarifying really fast, and

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it gets kind of uncomfortable fast too. There's a few

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00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:49.359
things on your list that won't have an answer. Now,

411
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.680
none of those things are the goal, not one. Every

412
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:57.160
single one of them exists to produce five things. So

413
00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:02.799
write these five things down. Some freedom, okay, what is that? Well?

414
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:06.599
The ability to say no. Okay, to say no to

415
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:11.599
a customer who mistreats you or your people. The freedom

416
00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:16.839
to you know, put a contract that you want on

417
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:22.279
your calendar. Take one off to a version of growth

418
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:26.559
that you don't actually want. If your business has grown

419
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.119
and your ability to say no is shrunk, well, then

420
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:38.599
that's not real growth. That's capture. Then there's time, not

421
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:45.720
time off. Time, the raw material of life. Every hour

422
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.359
you spend is an hour that you're never getting back,

423
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.160
and a business is supposed to buy those hours back

424
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:55.200
for you, not sell them off in bulk, especially at

425
00:29:55.240 --> 00:30:02.799
a discount. And choices where you live, who you work with,

426
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:06.440
what you do on a Tuesday afternoon. The number of

427
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:10.559
doors that you can walk through. Okay, A good business

428
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:14.839
adds doors, a bad business takes them away, one at

429
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:17.839
a time. And what happens does it happen so slowly

430
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:20.400
that you don't notice until you're standing in a room

431
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:29.440
with one exit. Security The ability to absorb a hit

432
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:32.599
without your whole life just sitting there shaking and scared.

433
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:37.119
A transmission goes out to roof leak, somebody gets sick.

434
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:44.599
Security means those problems are not catastrophes. See, that's what

435
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:50.920
a business should buy for the people that you love, Opportunity,

436
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:55.519
opportunity for your kids, for your people, for the person

437
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:58.279
you were at to twenty two who nobody would take

438
00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:01.880
a chance on. That's the one that gets me, honestly,

439
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:07.519
that's the one I think about most. Freedom, time, choices, security,

440
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:14.839
and opportunity. That is the actual output. Everything else on

441
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.200
this list, the revenue, the head count, the software, the systems,

442
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:25.759
the AI. That's the machinery that produces the output. And

443
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:28.359
if you want to know if you've drifted, ask yourself

444
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:37.440
a question, is my business producing freedom, time, choices, security,

445
00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:42.720
and opportunity. Because it's either providing those things or your

446
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:49.200
business is consuming them. A business will absolutely consume all

447
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:51.920
five and still look healthy from the outside.

448
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:54.519
And that's the real trap.

449
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:58.119
The numbers can go up while every one of those

450
00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:01.440
five things goes down, and the numbers they're not going

451
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:06.200
to warn you. The numbers don't care. The numbers have

452
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:10.079
never cared. The people in your house are going to

453
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:14.200
notice long before your accountant tells you there's something wrong.

454
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:22.680
So what this podcast, the Jeremy Hanson Podcast, will always be.

455
00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:28.640
I want you to know exactly what you're getting when

456
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:31.720
you press play on the Jeremy Hanson Podcast. I want

457
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:34.079
to be specific, because I think you deserve to know

458
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:38.759
what you're signing up for. Number One, I'm never going

459
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:41.000
to pretend. I'm never going to pretend about anything. I'm

460
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:45.680
not going to pretend that I haven't failed. I'm not

461
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:48.359
going to sit there and edit my history into a

462
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:54.119
highlight reel. I've made bad hires, I've made bad decisions.

463
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:58.720
I've had months where I was the problem, where the

464
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.799
business was fine and I was the thing that was broken.

465
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:05.519
You're going to hear about those, and not in the cute,

466
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:10.759
humble bragway where the failure somehow conveniently proves how great

467
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:14.640
I am. I'm talking about actual failures, the kind that

468
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:21.079
have a real cost. I've never once learned something useful

469
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.920
from a man who's never been wrong, and that's the truth,

470
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:30.079
not one time. Now. Those guys can be entertaining, but

471
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:35.359
they're really not instructive. Number Two, I'm never going to

472
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:39.880
teach you theory that I haven't lived. Okay, if I

473
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:43.440
tell you how to price a service, it's because I've

474
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:46.200
priced services and gotten it wrong and then fixed it.

475
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:50.400
If I tell you how to fire somebody, it's because

476
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.079
I've fired people and I've handled it poorly, and I've

477
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:58.599
handled it well in the way that I shouldn't have,

478
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:04.319
and I know the difference in my gut. Okay, I'm

479
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:07.559
not going to read you a business book and hand

480
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:09.199
it back to you with my name. I'm not going

481
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:13.280
to do that. There are people far better positioned to

482
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:16.519
teach you venture capital and cap tables and you know,

483
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:23.159
B series negotiations. Okay. I've never raised a significant amount

484
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:27.519
of money in my life. I've only made it. I'm

485
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.840
not going to pretend that I have. You See, what

486
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:34.679
I have done is build real businesses with real customers

487
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:39.599
and real payroll in real towns, starting from less than

488
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:44.760
nothing as a sixteen year old with a baby. That's

489
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:50.079
my lane. Okay, I'm going to stay in my lane.

490
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:52.480
Number three. I'm never going to tell you that this

491
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:56.719
is easy. I'm never going to tell you that entrepreneurship

492
00:34:56.760 --> 00:35:00.559
is the easy way, because it isn't and it's not

493
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:05.159
for everybody, and I think it's borderline irresponsible. How many

494
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:08.239
people online will tell a stranger quit a stable job

495
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:11.639
with kids and a mortgage based on nothing but vibes.

496
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:17.400
Some of you should not start a business right now.

497
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:18.679
Some of you should.

498
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.760
Get very, very good at your job and then to

499
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:26.679
save aggressively, watch how your boss actually runs things, and

500
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:30.480
start in three years from a position of strength instead

501
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:37.559
of desperation. I started from desperation. I willed it to work.

502
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:42.519
I don't recommend it. I promise you. There's no extra

503
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:49.400
there's no metal for the hard way number four. And

504
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:54.320
this is the promise underneath all of the others. I

505
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:57.880
will show you what thirty years of scars have taught me,

506
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:04.480
Not thirty years of wins, but scars, the stuff that

507
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:09.280
cost me something, the things that I do differently, the

508
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:11.960
stuff that I'm still working on right now today, at

509
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:15.360
my age, with grandkids, still getting it wrong once in

510
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:18.599
a while. That's the show, and that's what it's always

511
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:22.800
going to be. If you want somebody to tell you

512
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:27.960
that you're nine days away from a seven figure business, sorry,

513
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:31.960
I'm not your guy, and I gently suggest that that

514
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:40.840
guy isn't your guy either. So the best life formula.

515
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.159
I want to give you something practical, because I don't

516
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.800
want this to be a nice hour of talk that

517
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:52.119
makes you feel something and then changes nothing. So here's

518
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:56.880
how I actually measure whether this is working. It's the

519
00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:01.079
best life formula. I'll be honest with you. It's a

520
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:05.519
less formula than a set of questions that I'm afraid

521
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:09.000
to answer wrong. But first, let's just throw out the

522
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:15.760
fake scoreboard. Okay. Success is not measured by revenue. You see.

523
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:18.559
Revenue is the number that tells you how much money

524
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:23.039
moved through your hands. It doesn't tell you how much state.

525
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:26.719
It tells you absolutely nothing about what it costs to

526
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:31.800
get there. I've known plenty of guys doing eight figures

527
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:39.079
who were completely miserable and completely underwater. I've known guys

528
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:44.880
doing four hundred grand who were completely completely free. You see,

529
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:49.320
success is not measured by head counts. Again, people are

530
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:55.679
not points. Success is not measured by followers. Okay, I'm

531
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:58.039
going to say this as gently as I can. There

532
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:01.920
are people with enormous audio and says teaching businesses who

533
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:07.719
have never run one. An audience measures how well you communicate.

534
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:11.079
It does not measure whether the thing that you're communicating

535
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:17.719
is actually working. So throw all three out there. Here's

536
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:24.519
the real scoreboard. Okay, five questions. Question one, do your

537
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:28.400
kids want to spend time with you? Not? Do they

538
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:32.119
have to not? Are they obligated? Did they choose to?

539
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:35.800
Do you think when they're grown and they've got their

540
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:40.679
own lives, in their own schedules and nobody's making them

541
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:43.360
come and see you, does your name come up as

542
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:48.480
something that they look forward to. That's a twenty year

543
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:51.760
audit of every choice you've made when they were small,

544
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:56.119
and you can't cram for it. You cannot buy your

545
00:38:56.159 --> 00:39:04.119
way into it. I've literally watched men try Question two.

546
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:07.519
Does your spouse enjoy being around you?

547
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:11.960
Okay? The question wasn't was are you still married?

548
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:13.840
It wasn't.

549
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:14.920
Was it fine?

550
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:20.519
Does she or he actually enjoy it? Okay?

551
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:24.239
The version of you that walks in.

552
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.239
The door at six point fifteen, are you somebody that

553
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:29.559
she's glad to see, her he's glad to see or

554
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:34.679
something that is there to be managed. I'm gonna tell

555
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:37.199
you something may has been in this with me from

556
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:43.400
the beginning. Lover, business, partner, creative partner, the whole thing.

557
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:47.760
And I can tell you from experience that a business

558
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:51.119
will take everything you have and then ask what else

559
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:55.519
you've got? And if you're not deliberate, the person you

560
00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:01.360
love gets whatever left over. Okay, And the truth is

561
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:06.199
that's usually nothing, Usually just a tired guy thinking about

562
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:13.920
something else, staring at a wall. Question three, Can you

563
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:18.960
sleep at night? And I mean that both ways physically?

564
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:22.440
Is your nervous system so wrecked that you're lying there

565
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:22.960
at two in.

566
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:27.199
The morning running numbers? And morally?

567
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.800
Is there anything in how you run your business that

568
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:35.599
you'd be embarrassed to explain to your kids in plain language,

569
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:39.760
if you had to soften it to say it out

570
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:43.400
loud at your own dinner table. Well there's your answer.

571
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:51.599
There's the whole test right there. Question four, are you

572
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:56.920
proud of who you would become? I didn't say are

573
00:40:56.960 --> 00:40:59.719
you proud of what you built? Are you proud of

574
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:05.920
who who you've become? Business changes people, It absolutely does.

575
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:13.000
Pressure reveals things, and it manufactures others. Some men get

576
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:16.159
more generous under pressure, some get smaller, some get meaner,

577
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:22.440
and in real time, almost nobody notices it's happening to themselves.

578
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:26.719
So look at the man or woman that you are

579
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:30.559
right now and ask whether the twenty year old version

580
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:34.559
of you would recognize the good parts of you, not

581
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:43.760
the success, but your character. Question five, and this is

582
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:45.960
the one that kind of ties the whole show together.

583
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:52.440
Does your business serve your life or has your life

584
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:58.679
become a servant to your business. There's the moment I've

585
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.480
had it more than once where you realize you're not

586
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:05.719
running it anymore, where you realize that the business is

587
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:09.840
running you. So your calendar isn't yours, and your attention

588
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:14.920
isn't yours, your sleep schedule isn't yours, your identity isn't

589
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:20.679
yours anymore. And the crazy wild part of that is

590
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:24.760
sometimes other people look and they think that you're winning.

591
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:35.519
You know. That's five questions. That's the scoreboard. If you

592
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:39.760
notice revenue is not on there anywhere, not because money

593
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:42.719
doesn't matter, Because money matters enormously.

594
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:45.039
Money is literally oxygen.

595
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:48.119
Okay, just ask anybody that's running out of money and

596
00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:52.199
they'll tell you. But money is the tool, not the score.

597
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:59.360
Remember that. See the truth is everybody wins, then you win.

598
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:05.079
Let me put this from the beginning where we started.

599
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:10.079
See the Jeremy Hanson podcast is not about becoming the

600
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:14.840
biggest entrepreneur in the room. I literally have no interest

601
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:17.719
in that, and honestly, I don't think that you do either.

602
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.440
I think you just got handed that goal by somebody

603
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.000
selling something, and you've been carrying it around with you

604
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:29.760
ever since that you were checking to see if it

605
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:35.679
was yours. The show is about becoming the kind of

606
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:42.199
entrepreneur who builds an incredible life, and I want to

607
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.159
be precise about what that means, because it's not soft

608
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:50.000
and it's not small. It means a business where your

609
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:55.079
family wins, where the people in your house get the

610
00:43:55.119 --> 00:44:00.719
best version of you, not the leftovers. Your kids grow

611
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:03.239
up thinking that work is something a person does with

612
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:08.360
pride and boundaries instead of something that eats their dad alive.

613
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:16.559
It means a business where your employees win, where somebody

614
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:19.960
can raise a family on what you have the ability

615
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:24.400
to pay them, where they learn things standing next to

616
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:27.000
you that they'll use for the next thirty forty years,

617
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:31.519
whether they stay with you or not. I've had people

618
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:34.280
leave my companies and go start their own, and that's

619
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:39.920
not a loss, because that's the point. See. It means

620
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:43.920
where you have a business where your customers win, where

621
00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:47.239
they get more than what they paid for consistently, whether

622
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:51.880
anybody's watching or not, where your reputation in your town

623
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:56.239
does the selling for you because the work was actually great.

624
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:02.519
And then the part that most p people miss, where

625
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:08.159
your family wins and your employees win and your customers win.

626
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:14.599
You win to automatically, you see, not as a trade off,

627
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:18.599
but because you've built something and you get all of those.

628
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.920
Your family wins, your employee wins, your customers win as

629
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:27.360
a consequence of your life. You see, that's not a

630
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:32.159
feel good sentiment. It's the most durable business strategy that

631
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:36.480
I've ever found. Everything else that I have tried has

632
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:39.760
an expiration date on it, and that one does not.

633
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:43.199
And woila.

634
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:45.239
That's why I do this.

635
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:49.239
That's why I sit down and make these episodes with

636
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:55.000
a schedule that's already too full, because somewhere out there,

637
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:58.719
it's a twenty two year old kid with the truck

638
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:02.679
and no plan, and he's about to spend the next

639
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:06.519
fifteen years chasing a number that will never make him

640
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:10.519
feel happy the way that he thinks it will. I

641
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:12.400
was that guy, and I've seen a million like me.

642
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:18.280
See nobody told me so. I'm telling you, build the business,

643
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.679
build the business, Well, build it big if that's what

644
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:27.320
you want, but build the business as a tool, not

645
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:33.000
an identity. And never build a business ever for the

646
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:35.599
price of the people you told yourself that you were

647
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:40.360
doing it for in the first place. Because at the

648
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:44.920
end of it, all of it, nobody is going to

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It's free, it's short, and it's the stuff that I

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